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Shep Agent Posts: 287 |
posted 07-02-2010 02:33 PM
  
Ahh, yiff. So misunderstood, but it's meant to be funny. For one thing, yiff is supposed to be a lampooning of sexual repression in the world, sort of like how one would read MAD magazine to see who's lampooning the iPad or those idiots at BP. Secondly, it's not exactly supposed to be a SERIOUS topic, it's kinda like the Jerry Springer Show of the anthropomorphic animal art world. It's just silly, albeit mature, material posted for others to see and laugh at. I mean, where else can you find a gryphon orally satisfying a dragon while a tiger, a horse, an orca whale, a rabbit, AND a wolf have sado-masochistic relations in the background? Like I said, this stuff is meant to ENTERTAIN us, nothing more, nothing less, with the exception of incurrring more than a few boners along the way, lol. The best thing about yiff is that nobody seems to know of any limits as far as how far it goes, as it's protected by free speech and freedom of expression. (Though the one I have of one of my characters may push it to the limit, lol) Anyways, next time you see yiff, don't condemn, just applaud and say, "Thank you, Furries, you have made me smile yet again!" Thank you for your time. PEACE!! XD ------------------ IP: 24.115.67.17 |
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Shamon Cornell Pack Leader Posts: 317 |
posted 07-03-2010 12:58 AM
Personally, I feel the stuff has its time and its place, but alot of it is plainly not meant as a lampooning, or a parody of human sexuality but rather as an expression thereof. Some of the sexualities being expressed are right-frickin'-CREEPY. Also, there's the furries who want to jam the stuff in preschool environments, and when told that's against so many laws it isn't funny, begin to moan and cry about being "fursecuted" up and down the bloody Internet. In other words, the yiff is 9/10 of why people hate the Furries, and it's hard to blame them when alot of it happens to be tentacle-midget-herm-pregnant-scat-vore-bestiality-CUB-incest porn (yes, I HAVE seen stuff that was all that and more, simultaneously) and the artist trying to post it in a public library in the children's section is moaning that everyone's being so MEAN by saying kids shouldn't have access to it, or that maybe, just MAYBE, his images cross the barriers of good taste. I can't agree that something is parody, when I see the people who draw it often DEMANDING people to look at "Susie Age 7 Loves It in the Butt" as if it was "The Birth of Venus" Alot of it is meant as parody, yes, or it was when it began, and then people started paying for it. Doug Winger, for example. In the Elden Days of the Fandom, he drew some stuff that was freaky by his day's standards. Most furries chuckled and went on with their day, but then a pile of them said "That is SO hawt!" and started paying for MORE of it. At this point, it ceases to be a joke and has become porn in the same vein as "Debbie Does Dallas" or other things best left in the dustbin of the film industry. But again, it has its time, and its place, and so on. Some of it can actually be rather beautiful, when the artist actually conveys some emotion between the characters, instead of just some mindless grinding. That time and place is not "every inch of the Internet", and really, I'm all for FurAffinity having banned the cub porn. The unprosecuted sex offenders who are crying over it have already started up yet another "furry-friendly" art site, since FA "fursecuted" them, and I say good riddance. IP: 96.231.164.75 |
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Shep Agent Posts: 287 |
posted 07-03-2010 02:48 PM
I wouldn't exactly compare yiff to child porn, as THAT is BEYOND CREEPY! First off, the type of yiff you are talking about, yes, THAT is going beyond the limits of good taste. But if it's simply done as a thing of emotional beauty being conveyed between the parties/ characters involved, then yes, it has its time and place, as you have pointed out. Secondly, I wasn't exactly talking about "Cub porn," THAT kinda sounds like it's borderline, if not full-on, bestial-pedophilia. I was talking more about yiff that has some humorous twist inmeshed in itself, like a character making a pun about the particular situation. Plus, I think it's kind of hilarious when I see the truckloads of semen in one particular picture, because I KNOW that it is only FICTION!!!!! For one thing, no one on God's green Earth is capable of accomplishing that big of a money shot while only being hung as well as a German Shepherd; Secondly, say it with me, IT'S FICTION!! Look, I'm not trying to start a flame war over this, but people really need to just chill the f**k out, agree to disagree, and say that while yes, there are some beautiful works of yiff art out there, and some pretty hilarious ones too, for the most part, let's agree that it's only fiction. The "Cub porn" is what I'm against, obviously, but if it's got a punchline or if it's drawn like a masterpiece, then I can at least appreciate it for its comedy and/or beauty. There, I'm finished. [This message has been edited by Shep (edited 07-03-2010).] IP: 24.115.67.17 |
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Shep Agent Posts: 287 |
posted 07-03-2010 03:07 PM
Plus, yeah, I wouldn't recommend this stuff for ANYONE under 21. Lol, "fursecuted." I like that word... it makes me laugh. ------------------ IP: 24.115.67.17 |
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Shep Agent Posts: 287 |
posted 07-03-2010 03:22 PM
Look, Shamon, I didn't mean to get you or anyone else riled up. Like I said in the beginning, it's controversial, but I wasn't trying to start a flame war over it. I was trying to point out that while some yiff is over the line, there's some that's actually drawn quite beautifully and there's some that even has some humor in it. If I offended you or anyone else, I apologize. We all cool? ------------------ IP: 24.115.67.17 |
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Shamon Cornell Pack Leader Posts: 317 |
posted 07-03-2010 09:03 PM
my point is that "yiff" means "furry porn", regardless of intent. It's a massive spectrum unto itself. That some of the more horrifying varieties really have NO place in civilized society (cub porn IS outright child pornography, just with fuzzy children. It's getting banned from cons and such for a reason) was also one of my points. Again, I'm all for adult material and people's freedom to make and distribute it, but the better chunk of what I tend to see would give Cthulhu a case of dry heaves. Or a Boston dock-walking hooker. Whichever has seen more horrors. In their pants. Anyhoo, I think I'm gonna' close this one before it gets out of hand, aye? [This message has been edited by Shamon Cornell (edited 07-03-2010).] IP: 96.231.164.75 |
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